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Team Topologies, Cognitive Load & Complex Systems | Matthew Skelton In The Engineering Room Ep. 12

The "Engineering Room" is a monthly series of conversations with people who are influential in the software industry. In this episode Dave Farley, author of "Continuous Delivery", "Modern Software Engineering" and others, talks to Matthew Skelton co-author of one of the most significant software books of the last 10 years - “Team Topologies”, about the ingredients for long-term, viable, sustainable and understandable software development. Matthew Skelton is co-author of "Team Topologies: organizing business and technology teams for fast flow". He is Head of Consulting at Conflux and specialises in Continuous Delivery, operability, and organisation dynamics for modern software systems. In this conversation with Dave, he talks about the ecosystem necessary to build and nurture software, and the wide range of topics that impact on the effectiveness, and performance of development teams. The approach that his book "Team Topologies" describes is to use team structure as a tool, guided by the idea of managing the cognitive load of the team. This talk ranges from how to deal with the complex adaptive system that we inhabit when undertaking software development, to the structure of software development being more like an ant colony than an organised, predictable hierarchy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ⭐ PATREON: Join the Continuous Delivery community and access extra perks & content! JOIN HERE ➡️ https://bit.ly/ContinuousDeliveryPatreon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 👕 T-SHIRTS: A fan of the T-shirts I wear in my videos? Grab your own, at reduced prices EXCLUSIVE TO CONTINUOUS DELIVERY FOLLOWERS! Get money off the already reasonably priced t-shirts! 🔗 Check out their collection HERE: ➡️ https://bit.ly/3vTkWy3 🚨 DON'T FORGET TO USE THIS DISCOUNT CODE: ContinuousDelivery _____________________________________________________ LINKS: 📕 "Team Topologies" by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais ➡️ https://amzn.to/2Y0NdSO 🔖 Get my FREE guide "How to Organise SW Teams" when you join the CD Mail List ➡️ https://www.subscribepage.com/organis... 📕"Extreme Programming Explained: Embrace Change" by Kent Beck ➡️ https://amzn.to/2GpQRjE 🔖 Matthew Skelton on "Why are Deployment Pipelines Important" ➡️ http://bit.ly/3UhrNLG 📖 Dave’s NEW BOOK "Modern Software Engineering" is available as paperback, or kindle here ➡️ https://amzn.to/3DwdwT3 and NOW as an AUDIOBOOK available on iTunes, Amazon and Audible. 📖 The original, award-winning "Continuous Delivery" book by Dave Farley and Jez Humble ➡️ https://amzn.to/2WxRYmx 📖 "Continuous Delivery Pipelines" by Dave Farley Paperback ➡️ https://amzn.to/3gIULlA ebook version ➡️ https://leanpub.com/cd-pipelines 📕 The Origin Of Wealth: Evolution, Complexity, and the Radical Remaking of Economics, by Eric Beinhocker ➡️ https://amzn.to/3H4CgqT 📕 Thinking in Promises, by Mark Burgess ➡️ https://amzn.to/3V7Dk1i ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🙏The Engineering Room series is SPONSORED BY EQUAL EXPERTS Equal Experts is a product software development consultancy with a network of over 1,000 experienced technology consultants globally. They increase the pace of innovation by using modern software engineering practices that embrace Continuous Delivery, Security, and Operability from the outset ➡️ https://bit.ly/3ASy8n0 __________________________________________________ CHAPTERS 00:00 Welcome and Introduction to Matthew Skelton 01:25 Helping CEOs and CTOs rethink the building and running of software-enriched services 04:20 The wider ecosystem of writing code 06:40 The relationships between different practices, processes and systems 09:38 Shu Ha Ri - understanding what we are doing and why 10:32 The serious responsibility for all-pervasive sw which affects everything we do - even life and death 15:46 Organising around Team Cognitive Load 19:38 General applicability of Information System concepts 21:25 Two mindsets of Software Engineering 24:38 Creative problem-solving v the production line 26:25 Evolution - exploration in small steps, guided towards our intent, adapting to the tech' environment 32:20 Embracing Change 35:32 Paradigm shift: established approaches and patterns no longer fit 43:20 Helping businesses understand, adapt and adopt new ways of working to survive 48:30 The fans, the haters and the 'hard of understanding' 50:00 Control and decision-making in distributed organisations - the ant colony 1:00:20 Team autonomy and fast flow 1:03:52 Remote working and interactions between decoupled teams 1:09:09 Constraints that help improve design and free up creativity 1:14:00 Thanks to Matthew and wrap up