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LDS Temple Endowment and Masonry | Ep. 1669 | LDS Discussions Ep. 23

Join Mike and John as they discuss Mormonism’s early connection with Masonry through Joseph Smith and the unique problems it creates for members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to grapple with today. Covered topics include the timeline of Joseph becoming a Master Mason before introducing the similarly-themed rituals of the Temple Endowment Ceremony, why many members and apologists claim Masonry to be of ancient origin despite evidence to the contrary, the many parallels between the secret rituals of both organizations, and whether or not the Temple Endowment involved false doctrines. LDS Discussion Essay on the Temple & Masonry: http://ldsdiscussions.com/temple LDS Discussions Playlist:    • Joseph Smith and Treasure Digging | E...   Chapters: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:50 What we will and won’t cover in this episode 00:04:35 Timeline of Joseph Smith becoming a Mason and the endowment 00:07:30 The church’s “Now you know” video on Masonry and the Temple 00:10:20 Trying to normalize Masonry in 19th century America 00:12:45 The church implies that Masonry had a divine origin 00:16:04 Early members believed it was divine because Joseph said it was 00:21:19 More quotes about Masonry being the original endowment 00:22:15 Two more quotes on the endowment and masonry 00:24:15 Joseph taught masonry was the endowment - He was wrong 00:28:57 Even the church admit the lines of history and myth were blurred 00:36:00 The church seeks to explain why Joseph used surrounding ideas 00:36:30 The church can no longer deny Joseph used surrounding ideas 00:38:15 A quick recap of ideas Joseph took from his milieu 00:43:10 Similarities and difference between masonry and the endowment 00:47:35 Trying to have it both ways on the Masonic connections 00:51:00 The Masonic text before receiving the tokens/grips 00:57:40 These are not just “parallels” as the church declares 01:02:45 More parallels to the Masonic ceremony 01:06:30 The Five Points of Fellowship (now removed) 01:09:00 Penalties for revealing the signs and tokens (mostly removed) 01:10:05 Penalty #1 - Having my throat cut across 01:11:50 Penalty #2 - Having your heart plucked out 01:12:45 Penalty #3 - Having your bowels burned to ashes 01:15:40 The church today wants to claim these penalties did not exist 01:20:45 Clothing used in the endowment vs. Masonic ceremony 01:21:35 Masonic symbols that were brought to the Mormon temple 01:23:20 The subjective use of parallels 01:25:00 Taking the Occam’s Razor Look at the LDS Endowment and Masonry 01:29:00 The final section of the Now You Know video 01:30:50 The temple and the oath of vengeance 01:32:30 Cursing the leaders of the USA in the temple 01:36:00 Takeaways of the LDS Church using the temple to curse enemies 01:37:10 Adam-God doctrine in the Mormon temple 01:39:40 God allowed Adam-God into the temple ceremony 01:41:15 Seeing the forest through the trees 01:44:50 Joseph Smith is the one who declares these ideas are from God 01:51:30 Conclusions and takeaways LDS Discussions Playlist:    • Joseph Smith and Treasure Digging | E...   Episode Show Notes: https://mormonstories.org/podcast/tem... _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?d... Patreon:   / mormonstories   Amazon Smile: Be sure to select “Mormon Stories” website: https://smile.amazon.com app: https://amz.run/5r2M LDS Discussions Platforms: Website & Essays: https://www.ldsdiscussions.com Anchor: https://anchor.fm/lds-discussions Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2UkFsqY... YouTube Playlist on Mormon Stories Podcast:    • LDS Discussions - An Examination of M...   LDS Discussions on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/ldsdiscussions Facebook: facebook.com/ldsdiscussion Insta: instagram.com/ldsdiscussions Contact Mormon Stories: [email protected] PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Mormon Stories on Social Media: Instagram:   / mormstories   TikTok:   / mormonstoriespodcast   Discord:   / discord