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The Excommunication of Cody and Leah Young Pt. 2 - Mormon Stories

Join us now on Mormon Stories Podcast as we interview Leah and Cody Young about their recent excommunication. The backstory: A year and a half ago Leah and Cody began learning about the problems with the LDS church’s truth claims. This launched them and their family into a faith crisis, leaving them without support or community. They attempted to obtain support from their Mormon bishop and stake president, but neither were able to help them. A few months later, Cody and Leah started a Facebook support group for questioning and post-Mormons in the Columbus, Ohio area. Within a short amount of time their bishop and then stake president called them in and delivered them an ultimatum: disband the Facebook support group, or face excommunication. Leah and Cody did not feel that they could ethically do this. Both meetings with their stake president were recorded. Later in this process, Leah and Cody decided to tell their story on Mormon Stories Podcast, along with their brilliant 15 year old daughter Brinley. A few weeks ago Cody and Leah received a letter informing them of a disciplinary council. Cody and Leah attended their disciplinary council on Sunday, April 14th. In this interview we will discuss: – The events that led up to the disciplinary council. – The audio recording of the disciplinary council. – Their reactions to the disciplinary council. --------------- ***We are 100% donor funded! Please click here to donate to keep this content coming!: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?d... --------------- Timecodes: 00:00 Meeting with stake president 01:50 Leah and Cody telling about their family. 13 core values 04:22 Explanation of their faith journey 06:48 Current beliefs and frustrations about the church 11:02 President asks how would they like to resolve this. 11:24 Cody expressing his ideas. He mentions the Gospel Topics Essays 12:34 Leah explaining about beliefs before faith crisis and studying other religions. 17:00 Changes when you learn facts. YT video 'Spiritual witness' 18:45 Feeling the spirit more after having learned all this 19:58 Cody explaining about beliefs. Changed person after mission. 21:48 Stake president giving a resume. Did they also doubt their doubts? 22:24 Cody giving an example: polygamy. Studying footnotes in the Gospel Topics Essays. 24:27 Cody explaining living LDS for 40 years. 25:43 Leah explaining the enormous body of knowledge there is. The sources they used are not anti-mormon. 29:25 Leah telling about so much suffering going on and it is wrong. Following core values. 34:16 SP explaining that creating a group that pulls people away is a problem 35:41 Lean explaining about how the group came to be. 36:58 Cody asks what makes the SP think they are trying to pull people away. What does the church offer? Explaining his goals. 40:22 Cody explaining he feels his path is invalidated. 40:38 No safe space in the church. Being honest with yourself and facing the consequences. 42:30 Trying to be friends for people who are in a faith crisis without judgment. 47:35 Reasons for support groups. Asking the support group and compiling answers for the SP. 49:50 SP being puzzled. Leah explaining there is no preaching. Cody not resigning because of family. 52:06 SP asking if people go back to church after having been in the group. Yes. Cody and Leah further explaining what the group is about. 55:28 TED talk about LGBT Mormon children killing themselves. 56:30 SP asking if they think there are absolute stances. Leah explaining God is love. Mormonism has absolute stances on e.g. gay people. 59:15 Cody and Leah explaining they are still trying to figure things out. 1:00:29 Feelings as no reliable way to know 1:01:30 SP again asking if they preach. Leah and Cody further explaining group and role of admin in the group. 1:05:02 Leah's explaining how she's trying to fulfill a need while having a busy life. How can there ever be a conversation? 1:06:43 SP explaining that he feels there's space for questions, but there's also temple recommend questions. SP says he will read the responses Leah compiled. 1:08:43 Leah explaining sending letter to business partners about stepping away from the church. No talking about issues. 1:11:00 SP trying to come to a conclusion and expressing his concerns. Leah and Cody hope they're on the same team. 1:14:15 Leah explaining how they told their children in an age appropriate way to be safe to their friends 1:17:50 Closing