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Debating Race and Incarceration with Vincent Lloyd

My guest today is Vincent Lloyd. Vincent is a professor at Villanova University where he directed the Black Studies Program, leads workshops on anti-racism and transformative justice, and has published books on anti-black racism, including "Black Dignity: The Struggle against Domination". Now, Vincent is one of those rare guests with whom I have profound disagreements on the topic of race, but who's actually willing to have the conversation, which I'm very grateful for. Vincent came to my attention because of a stunning essay he wrote about his experience teaching a summer course on racism at the Telluride Association. He'll tell the full story in the podcast, but essentially his class was destroyed from within by a single hyper-woke person. It's a crazy story and I think it shocked him, and forced him to reckon with the anti-dialogue pro intimidation component of the campus far left. In any event, Vincent and I begin by talking about this strange experience of having his class imploded, and then we move on to debate our substantive disagreements about racism, police violence, race versus class, whether prisons are necessary, and much more. Pre-order my book: "The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America" - https://bit.ly/48VUw17 FOLLOW VINCENT: Book - https://bit.ly/44oiOyi FOLLOW COLEMAN: Check out my Album: AMOR FATI - https://bit.ly//AmorFatiAlbum Substack - https://colemanhughes.substack.com Unfiltered Community - https://bit.ly/3B1GAlS YouTube - http://bit.ly/38kzium Twitter - http://bit.ly/2rbAJue Facebook - http://bit.ly/2LiAXH3 Instagram - http://bit.ly/2SDGo6o Podcast -https://bit.ly/3oQvNUL Website - https://colemanhughes.org CHAPTERS: 00:00:00 Critics Refuse To Debate Identity Politics 00:02:02 Teaching About Racism And Facing Anti-dialogue On Campus 00:07:43 Bonding Of Kids From Diverse Backgrounds During Multi-week Program In 2014. 00:10:41 Telly Right Association Hires Instructors For College Level Seminar Amidst Organizational Changes. 00:12:12 Communication And Collaboration In A Classroom Setting. 00:19:03 Tension Between Demands For Democracy And Hierarchy In Education. 00:21:03 Decline In Participation In A Program Without Grades 00:27:16 Lack Of Leadership In Communication Regarding College Seminar 00:30:31 Authority, Accountability, And Democracy 00:37:11 Heterodox Students Removed From Seminar Program 00:41:30 Importance Of Radical Democratic Ethos And Student Movements In Transforming Education 00:46:31 Comparing Cases Of Police Brutality Against Black And White Individuals 00:48:28 Effects Of Slavery's Continuation On Police Violence And Other Sectors. 00:58:21 Critical Assessment Of The Impact Of Protests Against Police Brutality 01:00:05 Black Lives Matter As A Platform For Pursuing Justice. 01:05:36 Media's Responsibility To Tamp Down Black People's Fears Of Being Victims Of Racism 01:12:22 Skepticism Of Claims Of Anti-black Racism 01:14:47 White Supremacy: A Justification For Slavery 01:20:38 The Universality Of Brutality In Slavery Regardless Of Location Or Time Period 01:24:25 Two Conceptions Of Dignity 01:26:54 Approaching The Topic Of Martin Luther King Jr. From A Black Perspective In The Us: A Discussion On King's Radicalism. 01:30:14 Don't Sanitize MLK's Beliefs And Philosophy 01:34:26 Critique Of Multiculturalism In The United States 01:37:52 Overcoming Barriers For Black Students In Multicultural Environments 01:39:54 Imprisonment In Cages Should Be Abolished Worldwide 01:45:11 Effective Conversation-based Reform For Prisoners 01:48:50 Transformative Justice And The Role Of The State 01:50:07 The Complexities Of Poverty And Local Solutions 01:54:21 Potential Cause Of Rise In Homicide In A Country With Riots And Racial Reckoning. 01:59:08 De-escalation As A Priority In Complex And Tragic Situations. 02:03:22 An Alternative To Calling The Police For Schizophrenia #ConversationswithColeman #CWC #ColemanHughes #Podcast #Politics #society #Colemanunfiltered #Unfiltered #Music #Philosophy #BlackCulture #Intellectual #podcasting #podcastersofinstagram #Youtube #podcastlife #music #youtube #radio #comedy #podcastshow #spotifypodcast #newpodcast #interview #motivation #art #covid #history #republicans #blacklivesmatter #follow #libertarian #art #socialism #communism #democracy #lgbtq #journalism #woke #wokepolitics #media #policeviolence #blm #race #vincentlloyde #vincent