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Is Nirvana Indescribable? Is it Permanent?

Nirvana or the awakened state is often said to be indescribable, and typically understood as permanent. We'll consider both of these claims, and look at a neat thought experiment by philosopher Frank Jackson along the way. Check out my Patreon page at   / dougsseculardharma   Thanks to Patrons: Matthew Smith Suttas mentioned: The Unconditioned (SN 43.12, 14-43): https://suttacentral.net/sn43.12/en/b... (The rest of this sutta appears not to be available online). The Second Discourse About Dabba (Ud. 8.10): https://suttacentral.net/ud8.10/en/an... (Slightly different translation). The Exposition of the Elements (MN 140): https://suttacentral.net/mn140/en/bodhi Greater Discourse on the Simile of the Heartwood (MN 29): https://suttacentral.net/mn29/en/bodhi Previous essay of mine: http://secularbuddhism.org/2013/05/17... ----------------------------- Please visit the Secular Buddhist Association webpage! http://secularbuddhism.org/