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Chris from Ghostbudsters & Chris Durand – E.27

We The Growers sits with Chris from Ghostbudsters and Chris Durand, head of Manufacturing at Athena. They go over how defoliation rates will affect the overall run, the differences between the EC recommendations between Blended and Pro Line, and also cover how state taxes and regulations are holding cultivators back from running a profitable business. We are also available to listen to on Spotify and Apple podcasts: https://open.spotify.com/show/5VrbpGb... https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... More information about Chris from Ghostbudsters: Instagram:   / ghostbudstersfarm   Produced and shot by the Athena Ag Team. Athena Ag Instagram:   / athena.ag   Visit our website: https://www.athenaag.com/ #WeTheGrowers #AthenaAg 00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:05 How long have you been growing? How did you get into it? 00:03:03 "Cultivation is Math and Science." 00:03:47 How the experience with Chris' friends daughter ignited his passion 00:04:28 Getting into growing with a 9-5 00:04:57 Getting raided in a legal facility 00:04:45 Leaving your 9-5 to grow full time 00:06:45 Working to finalize newest formulations on the Blended Line with Fade 00:08:16 Testing results of Blended with Fade 00:08:50 How defoliation rates affect your run 00:10:59 Athena Handbook and honing your craft as Cultivator 00:11:58 "Are you still doing a defoliation later in flower while using Fade" 00:13:50 "What would you see if a guy was using Fade too early?" 00:14:49 Using the Athena Handbook 00:16:04 Hash Returns while using Fade earlier vs. later 00:18:23 What Athena R&D has been working on 00:21:33 Athena's Quality Control 00:24:07 Listening to feedback from Growers 00:28:13 Solving problems as a Grower 00:28:27 Improvements in Pro Line 00:34:15 Working with Tony Buckets on DWC Athena Feed Chart 00:41:21 When Athena DWC SOP will be ready to launch 00:41:50 Jay with Athena 00:42:40 Dialing in your Systems 00:46:30 "Get your eyes on the Garden" 00:49:13 Working with the team at Athena 00:49:40 Being a Leader as a Business Owner 00:50:30 State and City Taxes on Cannabis Products and Cannabis moving to Schedule 3 00:54:29 "The white market is the black market." 00:56:14 Dispensaries, Distributors, Buyers not paying Growers 01:00:42 "If you don't pay your bills, you shouldn't be able to have a license." 01:00:58 State Taxes, Licensing, and Regulations 01:05:30 "It's unfortunate that we've gotten to this place where it's normal not to pay people." 01:07:02 Stories from the Traditional Market 01:09:16 Running a business in a hyper competitive market 01:10:25 Athena delivering a quality product 01:13:20 Q&A From Growers 01:13:22 "Chris, talk about the difference between EC recommendations between Blended Line and Pro Line" 01:14:14 "How to avoid tip burn on Pro Line at 3.0 EC all the way?" 01:22:02 "What's the primary driver for terps and THC?" 01:31:00 "Thoughts of eliminating grow and using core bloom from clone to harvest. What do you think about guys using bloom through veg?" 01:33:44 "How long should you wait in between mixing the different parts?" 01:39:15 "Talk about mixing practices more in depth with Balance Pro and Pro Line" 01:44:35 "If the tank goes cloudy between core and bloom, should the feed be written off and started over?" 01:45:43 "Why are ratios between metric and imperial different?" 01:46:59 "What are the effects of using Fade longer than recommended?" 01:50:08 "How do you recommend topping a batch tank or topping up a DWC?" 01:52:57 "How do you avoid hollow stems?" 01:56:12 "Using Blended Line is there too much Nitrogen and CalMag to use it at the back half of flower?" 01:56:54 "The correct way to raise or lower the runoff pH during Vegetive and Generative states?" 02:01:36 "Favorite terp profile, favorite single terp, what do you look for in a cultivar as a keeper?" 02:06:06 "What do you think about pound prices in Michigan, and what are your future expectations? Do you think they will go back up and do you think people can secure a better price?" 02:11:12 "How do you guys run the taper to finish the line and drybacks once you pass bulking phase?"