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Join theoretical physicist Julian Barbour and quantum engineer Seth Lloyd in a provocative discussion challenging our fundamental understanding of physics. At 87, Barbour presents his revolutionary theory suggesting that motion itself might be an illusion, comparing this potential paradigm shift to the transition from geocentric to heliocentric models of the universe. Key topics include: A new approach to understanding the universe through "shape complexity" rather than motion Challenge to quantum mechanics and conventional theories of cosmic structure formation Discussion of how consciousness and memory might work in a timeless universe Debate on the role of quantum mechanics in explaining universal phenomena Exploration of Newtonian gravity's role in cosmic structure formation This engaging dialogue between two leading thinkers includes fascinating visualizations of particle distributions and cosmic structure, while touching on everything from Shakespeare to the philosophy of William James. Whether you're a physics enthusiast or simply curious about the nature of reality, this conversation offers fresh perspectives on some of science's most fundamental questions. #Physics #Cosmology #QuantumMechanics #TheoreticalPhysics #Science