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I sit down with Jake Bower and Chance Cretsinger for one of the best discussion yet on the THY pod! This episode really represents what this podcast is all about, we talk freedom of speech, why martial arts is evolving so fast, new business models to support more cross-training, men's mental health, military service, and more. Jake is a pro MMA competitor, jiu jitsu competitor, and owner of Myriad Submission Fighting. He discusses his background, his father's military service, his latest fight, and his experience cross-training at one of the best gyms in the country Pedigo Submission Fighting. Chance is a retired MMA fighter who is building the future of Central Iowa MMA with his initiative Evo Fight Team. He discusses how bullying got him into martial arts and his vision for leveling up athletes in Central Iowa. Follow @toeholdyou on Instagram, YouTube, Spotify, Rumble, and Apple Podcasts campsite.bio/toeholdyou