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Andovi and Abigail dive into the topic of nationalism in Indonesia, exploring its different forms, its dangers, and how it can be interpreted in various ways. They tackle the big questions such as: What does it mean to love your country, and when does pride become over-the-top? In this episode we use the term “nationalism” and “patriotism” sort of interchangeably, as many Indonesians often do as well. Resources and further reading on the topic: Philip Spencer & Howard Wollman "Nationalism. A Critical Introduction" "The Modernity of Nationalism: Nations, States and Nation-States in the Contemporary World.” Journal of International Affairs 45, no. 2 (1992): 307–23. http://www.jstor.org/stable/24357359. George McT. Kahin. "Nationalism and Revolution in Indonesia" Benedict Anderson. "Language and Power: Exploring Political Cultures in Indonesia Benedict Anderson. "The Spectre of Comparisons: Nationalism, Southeast Asia and the World" ---------------- What is up, Indonesia? (WIUI) is an independent media that curates Indonesian socio-politics in an accessible manner for internationally-raised Indonesian youths. Instagram: / whatisupindonesia Twitter: / wiuindonesia Tiktok: / whatisupindonesia Website: https://whatisupindonesia.com/ JOIN OUR WIUI COMMUNITY Discord: / discord Connect with Andovi da Lopez Instagram: / andovidalopez Twitter: https://x.com/AndovidaLopez Tiktok: / andovishow Connect with Abigail Limuria Instagram: / abigailimuria Twitter: https://x.com/abigailimuriaa Tiktok: / abigailimuria