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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. #GOTOcon #GOTOunscripted https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/338 Ben Ellerby - Founder of aleio & AWS Serverless Hero Julian Wood - Serverless Developer Advocate at AWS@julian_wood RESOURCES Ben / ellerbyben / benjaminellerby https://github.com/BenEllerby / bene_37069 Julian / julian_wood http://www.wooditwork.com / julianrwood Links • Minimum Viable Migrations (MVMs): A P... • Microservices • Martin Fowler • YOW! ... • The Value Flywheel Effect: A Modern C... • Adaptive Socio-Technical Systems with... • The Ultimate Cloud Platform Team Topo... • Designing Data Governance from the Gr... • Adopting Cloud Native EDAs - The Serv... • Serverless Compute at the Heart of Yo... • Strategic Monoliths & Microservices •... • Software Architecture for Tomorrow: E... • Expert Talk: DevOps & Software Archit... • Event Storming: 50.000 Orange Stickie... • Complexity is the Gotcha of Event-dri... • Platform Strategy • Gregor Hohpe & Ja... • Why is it so Hard to Create a Great P... • Beyond the Hype: A Realistic Look at ... • EDA Panel • R. Sethi, S. Brisals, L. ... • How Flow Works • James Lewis • GOTO 2024 • Optimizing Amazon EventBridge Pipes w... • Climbing the Ladder of Abstraction To... DESCRIPTION Julian Wood and Ben Ellerby explore the challenges and innovations in event-driven architectures, generative AI, and serverless technologies. They emphasize the importance of well-structured event schemas and the role of platform teams in reducing cognitive load for developers. Ben Ellerby highlights the potential of generative AI in modernizing legacy codebases and discusses the resurgence of event-driven architectures, driven by improved tools and frameworks that promote decoupling and efficiency. The conversation also touches on the future of serverless computing, edge computing, and the significance of data management in global applications, underscoring a transformative shift toward more scalable and flexible cloud solutions. TIMECODES 00:00 Intro 00:25 Understanding the cloud transformation journey 03:12 Modern cloud & navigating organizational change 09:56 Incentivizing teams & managing modernization costs 14:37 Modernizing microservices: Balancing complexity & cognitive load 21:37 EDA & platform teams 32:57 Future innovations in cloud & serverless architectures 42:54 Outro RECOMMENDED BOOKS David Anderson, Marck McCann & Michael O'Reilly • The Value Flywheel Effect • https://amzn.to/3VcHxC7 Adam Bellemare • Building Event-Driven Microservices • https://amzn.to/3WfNKfM Lauren Maffeo • Designing Data Governance from the Ground Up • https://amzn.to/3QhIlnV Vaughn Vernon & Tomasz Jaskula • Strategic Monoliths & Microservices • https://amzn.to/3AcUscj Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb Peter Sbarski • Serverless Architectures on AWS • https://amzn.to/3hJzEUM Michael Stack • Event-Driven Architecture in Golang • https://amzn.to/3G5e8ST James Urquhart • Flow Architectures • https://amzn.to/3Tyz8cY / gotocon / goto- / goto_con / gotoconferences #PlatformTeams #TeamTopologies #CloudPlatform #EDA #EventDrivenArchitecture #SoftwareArchitecture #AWS #EventDriven #Serverless #CloudNative #EdgeComputing #EventDesign #SoftwareEngineering #Programming #BenEllerby #JulianWood CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: / @goto- Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket at https://gotopia.tech Sign up for updates and specials at https://gotopia.tech/newsletter SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNEL - new videos posted almost daily. https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConf...