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Aligning Red and Blue Best Practices for Effective SOCs with Ashley Knowles (S1:E6)

Welcome to Simply Defensive! Josh Mason and co-host Wade Wells sit down with special guest Ashley Knowles from Black Hills InfoSec. Dive into the world of pen testing, SOC management, and the complex relationships between blue and red teams. Ashley shares her experiences working as a penetration tester for over a decade, her role with Black Hills InfoSec, and insights on improving SOC operations. Discover the challenges of balancing SOC metrics, handling new threats, and fostering transparency between teams. Plus, learn about the intricacies of Microsoft DevTunnels and other cutting-edge techniques used in the field. Don't miss Ashley's advice on research, continuous learning, and the importance of Googling effectively. Subscribe and hit the bell for more episodes! 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:51 Ashley Knowles' Role and Background 01:44 Discussion on Threat Emulation and Simulation 02:37 Ashley Knowles' Work at Black Hills InfoSec 03:47 Challenges in Detection and Threat Emulation 06:46 Microsoft Dev Tunnels and Detection Challenges 11:49 Red Team and Blue Team Dynamics 18:25 SOC Metrics and Improvement Strategies 22:19 Challenges in SOC Operations 22:39 Entry-Level Pay Disparities 23:25 Career Path Comparisons 24:47 Improving SOC Efficiency 25:26 Transparency in Pen Testing 26:05 The Importance of Timestamps 32:34 SOC and IR Collaboration 35:24 The Value of Certifications 40:07 Audio Setup Troubles 40:49 Conclusion and Contact Info ========================= Connect with your hosts: Josh Mason:   / joshuacmason   Wade Wells:   / wadingthrulogs   ========================= Simply Cyber empowers people who want a rewarding cybersecurity career 💪 ========================= ========================= All the ways to connect with Simply Cyber https://SimplyCyber.io/Socials =========================