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48. The UAP Problem Goes Mainstream VID: Unexplained Anomalous Phenomena in Media, w Lt. Ryan Graves

UFOs have traditionally been more of a pop culture phenomenon than an actual science. But with the recent declassification of Navy gun camera footage that shows unexplained craft seeming to defy the laws of flight and physics, there's a growing movement among the aviation, military and science communities. They insist it's vital to destigmatize the conversation around Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, or UAPs, which is the preferred nomenclature for the inexplicable occurrences. Because the craft seem to do things that are impossible for our current level of aeronautical technology, and have interfered with the operation of other aircraft in-flight. And if they aren't American, they pose a national security threat regardless of whether they're from China, Russia or... somewhere else. So in this episode of the Lead Balloon Podcast, we talk to former Navy Lt. Ryan Graves, the founder of Americans for Safe Aerospace and a former Navy F-18 pilot who has experienced encounters with UAP. He was also one of three experts called to testify at a Congressional hearing in July. He'll share the things he saw that convinced him that UAP are a serious issue, what made him decide to come forward as the first military pilot to go public with his concerns, and why so many pilots experience UAP but choose not to report it. Then, we'll discuss how his organization is leading a campaign to destigmatize the conversation, promote UAP reporting, and bring transparency to the issue. On the Lead Balloon Podcast, we tell stories of strategic communicators working on intense, high-stakes and unique campaigns. Make sure to subscribe in your favorite podcast app for monthly audio episodes: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Rrd1Bj... 0:00 The UAP Problem 0:35 Meet Lt. Ryan Graves 1:52 Ryan's Background 3:18 Why Are UAPs a Problem? 4:38 Why Are UAPs a National Security Threat? 6:10 Ryan's UAP Encounters 11:20 The Squad's First Visual Sighting 15:25 Blue, Red... or Green? 19:50 The Public Doesn't Get Physics 23:00 The Mission of Americans for Safe Aerospace 25:05 The Stigma of Reporting UAPs 27:25 The New York Times Videos 32:10 Why Don't We Say UFOs Any More? 34:55 The Chinese Spy Balloon 38:10 What Progress Has Been Made? 41:22 Why Aren't More People Curious? 43:35 Final Thoughts, Thanks and Credits