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Navi Pillay: South Africa is very close to proving genocide in Gaza | The InnerView

How do you legally establish whether a country is guilty of genocide? Chair of the Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, Judge Navi Pillay, says it’s all about proving intent—a daunting task that South African lawyers are already “halfway” through in their ICJ case against Israel. Growing up in apartheid-era South Africa, Pillay has spent her career navigating some of the world’s toughest human rights battles. In conversation with Imran Garda, she opens up about the ongoing atrocities in the occupied Palestinian territories, the challenges of investigating them, and why she believes that, despite its flaws, the UN remains a vital force in the global pursuit of peace. 00:00 Meet Navi Pillay 02:13 The Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory 03:40 October 7th and the justification of crimes 04:39 Investigating atrocities and why the Gaza war is different from others 06:42 “The UNSC is a very faulty system but it is the best we have” 08:01 Criticism of her report on unlawful Israeli occupation 09:55 Commissions of Inquiry with no end date 11:07 South Africa’s ICJ case against Israel 12:48 Is Israel committing genocide in Gaza? 14:48 The 2024 report on abuses 15:50 Is the UN no longer fit for purpose? 16:37 Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan’s support for apartheid in South Africa 17:20 Reform of the UNSC, the veto system, and the shift in Western stance on Palestine 19:50 Her life and experience as a judge and human rights advocate 22:16 On attempts to assassinate her character 23:22 Role models and leaders today 24:13 Will the occupation end in our lifetime? Subscribe: http://trt.world/subscribe Livestream: http://trt.world/ytlive Facebook: http://trt.world/facebook Twitter: http://trt.world/twitter Instagram: http://trt.world/instagram Visit our website: http://trt.world