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How does your view of spiritual gifts - and what they're really for - impact your health and longevity as a pastor, especially if you're co-vocational, and help your church become more sustainable in accomplishing the mission God has given it? We'll talk about that with special guest Chase Rashad in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show. Links for Today's Show Blog post/show notes for this episode: https://www.morethanapastor.com/69 Chase Rashad's Website: http://www.UnisonGR.com Want to Support the Show? Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/richavery I'm so excited to have my friend Chase Rashad on the show today. Chase and I served together back about 10 years ago with Kentwood Community Church, a large multi-ethnic church located in suburban Grand Rapids, Michigan. In 2013 we had the privilege of launching the church's first multi-site campus. Two years later, in 2015, Chase went on to launch Unison Christian Church, a multi-ethnic church in urban Grand Rapids. In addition to serving as lead pastor at Unison, Chase is a gifted musician as well as a racial equity coach for many schools, churches, and businesses. In this conversation... Chase and I talk about planting churches in a multi-ethnic context. I ask Chase about his journey as a co-vocational pastor, including a question he's never been asked or thought about before. And we discuss his new book, Seamless: What Your Spiritual Gifts are Really For, exploring the background on why he wrote the book (his answer may surprise you), what the church has often gotten wrong about spiritual gifts, and how a proper understanding of spiritual gifts is needed today more than ever amidst a rapidly changing church landscape. And lots more! And now let's get to our conversation with Chase Rashad.