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In this inaugural episode, I'm speaking to Peter van Hardenberg, who helped to coin and popularize the term Local First. As the director of the Ink & Switch Research Lab, he's been on the forefront of this work for the better part of a decade. My conversation with him today starts with the basics of what Local First is and why you, an application developer, should care about it. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 04:50 The Problem with Current Software 08:14 Complexity of Modern Web Development 13:00 What is Local First? 15:40 How to build Local First Apps 18:34 The Data Is The Hard Part 24:48 Local-first Use Cases 30:07 Data Syncing 32:22 Existing Local First Products 35:51 Conflict Free Replicated Data Type (CRDTs) 41:25 The Challenges of Building Local First Apps 43:41 The Benefits of Local First for Developers 48:29 The Seven Ideals of Local First 53:53 How ready is Local First? 01:00:35 Open Research Questions 01:06:22 Outro Mentioned in podcast: Peter: http://x.com/pvh + http://www.pvh.ca https://www.inkandswitch.com/local-first http://inkandswitch.com https://automerge.org https://www.inkandswitch.com/embark Links: Website: https://localfirst.fm X/Twitter: https://x.com/localfirstfm Thank you to https://expo.dev/ and https://crabnebula.dev/ for supporting the podcast.